Wednesday, November 23, 2016

Did Trump Really Win?


Did Trump really win?

In one way, the answer is most definitely no:
Hillary Clinton is the winner of the national popular vote, and she will be the people's president for the next four years no matter what.

But what about the electoral college?

After Hillary's concession, I initially decided to put this site on hiatus through the rest of the year with this post and reevaluate the future of HillaryHQ.com at a later date. However, that was before this bombshell story in New York Magazine:
Hillary Clinton is being urged by a group of prominent computer scientists and election lawyers to call for a recount in three swing states won by Donald Trump, New York has learned. The group, which includes voting-rights attorney John Bonifaz and J. Alex Halderman, the director of the University of Michigan Center for Computer Security and Society, believes they’ve found persuasive evidence that results in Wisconsin, Michigan, and Pennsylvania may have been manipulated or hacked. The group is so far not speaking on the record about their findings and is focused on lobbying the Clinton team in private.

Last Thursday, the activists held a conference call with Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta and campaign general counsel Marc Elias to make their case, according to a source briefed on the call. The academics presented findings showing that in Wisconsin, Clinton received 7 percent fewer votes in counties that relied on electronic-voting machines compared with counties that used optical scanners and paper ballots. Based on this statistical analysis, Clinton may have been denied as many as 30,000 votes; she lost Wisconsin by 27,000. While it’s important to note the group has not found proof of hacking or manipulation, they are arguing to the campaign that the suspicious pattern merits an independent review — especially in light of the fact that the Obama White House has accused the Russian government of hacking the Democratic National Committee.
To my mind, there are three big reasons why this article is significant. One, it's published in an extremely reputable source. Two, a couple of top people in the Clinton camp (Podesta and Elias) are listening to these claims and apparently taking them seriously. And three, the name "J. Alex Halderman". I personally didn't recognize that name, but some people in the know certainly did.
The story has already spread to CNN, New York Daily News and Huffington Post, and where it will go in the coming days is anyone's guess. But it's out there in the mainstream now, and the momentum to verify the vote continues to build.

Despite this site being inactive, Hillary HQ has been on top of the latest news regarding vote irregularities for almost two weeks on Twitter and Facebook, and has supported efforts to recount and/or audit certain swing states.

A few thoughts on the latest developments:
It's impossible to know where any of this will lead, but it needs to be seriously checked out. Maybe the original counts will be 100% verified and we can at least rest easy that no one hacked the vote. Or maybe there really is something crazy, frightening and unprecedented going on. As insane as this entire year has been, nothing would surprise me.

Whatever the case...win or lose...it is the position of Hillary HQ that we fight Donald Trump every single step of the way. The results on election night felt wrong and ever since then I've had this weird feeling that it's not over yet.

He's not president until he's president...and even then, he's not our president. We fight on.

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12 comments:

  1. PLEASE, FOR THE GOOD OF OUR PLANET, PERSUADE HILLARY TO CALL FOR RECOUNTS IN THESE 3 STATES AND FLORIDA. THERE ARE QUESTIONABLE #S THERE, AS WELL.

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  2. PLEASE, FOR THE GOOD OF OUR PLANET, PERSUADE HILLARY TO CALL FOR RECOUNTS IN THESE 3 STATES AND FLORIDA. THERE ARE QUESTIONABLE #S THERE, AS WELL.

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  3. PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE ASK FOR THE RECOUNT BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE. THIS WOULD TURN THE OUTCOME OF THE ELECTION ON IT'S HEAD. THIS IS TOO IMPORTANT NOT TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY. CALL THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE ON 1-202 353 1555 TODAY. THEY ARE APPARENTLY TALLYING THE NUMBER OF CALLS THAT THE GENERAL PUBLIC ARE MAKING REGARDING THIS.

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  4. Everything we hold near and dear as a country is in the balance here. This is not about sore losers at all. Trump could undo all we have worked for that really does make America Great.

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  5. CASE IN POINT.....!!!!!..THE NORTH CAROLINA'S GOVERNOR'S RACE....!!!!!!!....I'M BEEN THINKING TO MYSELF HOW IS IT THAT THE DEMOCRAT IN THE RACE IS WINNING...!!!!....AND WITH EACH DAY EXPANDING HIS LEAD OVER THE republican nominee...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.....YET OUR MADAME HILLARY CLINTON LOST THE STATE...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?????????????......AS MY LATE GREAT DEMOCRAT GOVERNOR OF TEXAS ...ANN RICHARDS.....WOULD BE SAYING RIGHT NOW......!!!!!!!....THIS DOG AIN'T HUNTING....!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.....YES I'M A SORE LOSER...YES HE WILL NEVER BE MY president.....!!!!!!....YES HE IS IS A LOW-LIFE THAT IS COMPLETELY UNFIT FOR THIS JOB...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.....BUT RIGHT IS RIGHT AND THIS IS THE RIGHT COURSE TO TAKE IMMEDIATELY...!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  6. Making sure the count is actually right is crucial and why don't those that voted for Trump have him as president & those that voted for Hillary have her? Then at the end of 4 years lets just SEE who comes out on top! That way all American's will be extremely happy!

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  7. This is such a load of crap. I suppose if there was cheating it was only Trump and not Hillary, right? If the decision had been for Hillary it would be case closed. Get rid of the Electoral College if you want, but it's interesting that it's only challenged by the losers. Accept this and move on.

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    1. recounts catch all cheats, the only question is if she will allow it to go forth. And that is a question, and I hope she says yes. you can bet that if it was close the other way, Trump would insist on more than a recount, he's be tweeting about rigged elections and getting his supporters all riled up.

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    2. It would be great to move on, if you could answer the question: Why was it only the DNC being hacked during the campaign, and not the RNC? I'M SURE THEY HAVE SOME JUICY TIDBITS OF CONTROVERSY! ...I'm just sayin' , and you should be too!

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    3. and Comey, who wants on the Supreme Court, claims her private server wasn't safe, but nothing from there and her campaign email was the same private server. He said gmail was safer, and that was how they got Podesta, and the DNC had a public server, and yet Comey used that to help out the Russians, who may not have needed his help if they hacked into the machines.

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  8. Apparently Russia hacked successfully into Ukraine voting machines. Also, the ballots were downloaded into the voting machines from computers that were hooked to internet, and malware could easily be transferred. I am willing to contribute to pay cost of any recount or audit. An audit or recount should now be automatic due to risks of foreign government manipulation of elections.

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  9. There is a movie through Comcast called "Scorpion" We need a bigger vote. Episode 7 that will show you how an election can be hacked through electronic voting. The Chinese used it. If you don't catch it while the votes are recording you won't know but it can happen.

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