Monday, July 18, 2016

This Astonishing Moment From Trump/Pence on 60 Minutes Will Reverberate Until Election Day

Did you watch Leslie Stahl's interview with Donald Trump and Mike Pence on 60 Minutes? If not, go watch all of it right now to witness one pathetic moment after another.

But there's one moment in astonishing, flabbergasting exchange...that will reverberate until Election Day like no other.

Vox breaks it down:
"We did go to war, if you remember," Stahl said. "We went to Iraq."

"Yeah," Trump replied, "you went to Iraq" — note the use of the second person there — "but that was handled so badly. And, by the way, that was a war that we shouldn't have entered."

Recall, at this point, that Trump is sitting next to his running mate, Mike Pence. And Mike Pence supported the Iraq War. This is something Stahl noted.

"Your running mate voted for it," she said.

Trump’s reply? "I don't care."

Stop for a moment and let that sink in. Trump did not try to explain away Pence’s vote. He did not say that Pence had learned from his vote. He just said, flatly, "I don’t care."

Stahl, at this point, seemed genuinely shocked. "What do you mean you don't care that he voted for it?"

"It's a long time ago," Trump said. "And he voted that way, and they were also misled. A lot of information was given to people." Here, again, it’s worth quoting what came next:

Lesley Stahl: But you've harped on this.

Donald Trump: But I was against the war in Iraq from the beginning.

Lesley Stahl: Yeah, but you've used that vote of Hillary [Clinton]'s that was the same as Gov. Pence as the example of her bad judgment.

Donald Trump: Many people have, and frankly, I'm one of the few that was right on Iraq.

Lesley Stahl: Yeah, but what about he—

Donald Trump: He's entitled to make a mistake every once in a while.

Lesley Stahl: But she's not? Okay, come on—

Donald Trump: But she's not—

Lesley Stahl: She's not?

Donald Trump: No. She's not.

Lesley Stahl: Got it.
It's possible that the American people have never seen such blatant and proud hypocrisy in a presidential candidate before. I certainly haven't. In any other year I'd say this exchange was "unbelievable" and "disqualifying", but this isn't any other's just another day in Trumpland. 

Imagine for a second that Hillary picked a running mate who disagreed with her on such a contentious long-term issue and her response was, literally, "I don't care". Such an absurd answer would likely dominate the headlines for days and possibly torpedo her candidacy. So yes, clearly there is a double standard at work in the media. A massive one. 

But it doesn't stop there.

We should expect Donald to go after Hillary at least once in a debate regarding her vote for the Iraq resolution (even though he's on record supporting the invasion in 2002). But now, not only does he have a running mate who also voted for the AUMF, he's also on record saying he doesn't even care about the issue when it comes to Pence. If Trump tries to make the argument in a debate that it was a mistake for Clinton but not Pence, Hillary will completely destroy him on this.

There's no need to wait until the debates though. Every single voter who's even halfway considering a vote for Trump should see this clip...whether the media deems it noteworthy or not.



  1. Well, here's what they would say: With Pence it was a one-time mistake, with Hillary it's part of pattern of poor judgement.

    1. Pretty sure Pence doesn't even consider it a mistake, though.

  2. I thought the worst part was that Trump doesn't seem to be able to just sit and listen while someone is talking. He could have demonstrated some restraint and teamwork by letting Pence actually answer the questions. Instead he just interrupted and answered the questions for him. I've known the type: They can't function unless they are completely in charge of everything.

    1. As bad as this interview was, day one of the convention overwhelmed it...for better or worse.

    2. I do know this type of men: rapists. They have dominate, no matter who it hurts.